@BrankoTesla I agree with you. There is always a situation when you may need different software to do the job. My believe is that you should not be a die hard fan of anything. The purpose of machines is to help you do your job. I use mac just because it helps me do my job faster. However I use a windows phone (which I have to say works pretty good). For home media I use OpenElec, my tablet is Android because of the software I can use on it. Basically what I am trying to say is that you should purchase your hardware based on your needs, not based on what you like more Linux, android, windows or apple. Time will come you will need each of them in certain point.
Absolutely agree, Marin - I just hope that one day Linux and other open software will be good enough conpetition to Windows and Mac, and that, in fact we won’t depend on only one OS to do our job. My posts are mostly about average Linux users. I am aware that many specialised softwre can only work on windows. Just a little digression - a fer days ago I went to an oftamologist to CT scan my eyes, and he was using Windows. It’s normal because I doubt the program he was running to scan would work on Linux. But, what really anoys me is not that; it’s when I see people using Windows or Mac at home only for web browsing or creating documents.
In the secondary school where I worked all machines were Windows 7 with MS Office 2010 on each of them (some 100 boxes) and I saw absolutely no need for that. And you can imagine the sheer amount of money these institutions spend just for licencing software etc. And it’s only one school! What about goverments local municipalities etc.
Not to mention that any worthy program program you would like to use at home (e.g. Photoshop) you need to pay a huge amount of money for licencing. And many of those who use Photoshop here use cracked versions (just like Windows). I’m really against all that, and if one cannot afford legal softwre, then Linux (or BDS for example - though I don’t know much about it) are excellent alternatives. Gimp is an excellent tool, even for more advanced users. It’s just that people here are not aware of that. And ethical questions (or legal if you wish) are not amongst the main priorities in my country, unfortunately.
But, what really anoys me is not that; it’s when I see people using Windows or Mac at home only for web browsing or creating documents.
Good point!!! My girlfriend is doing the same… uses a sony vayo for browsing…she will do it much better with linux, but yet, she does not want to use Linux for noparticular reason.
You brought a good point about office packets. Libre office and OpenOffice are great alternatives for MS office (and have pretty similar menus in my opinion), yet organizations pay thousands for Microsoft’s products… These are money that can be invest somewhre else… However I think we might have gone off topic
Quite right - my apologies. I’ll try to be more focused in the future.
Yes, some distributions of Linux are much faster, Linux is superior with many aspects vs. Windows.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion - that’s why we live in democracy. However, if you haven’t already noticed this Forum is called LinxSay, which imlplies the fact that most users here are Linux users. This doesn’t mean that the users of other operating systems are not welcome. Everyone is welcome to share their views on any operating system and provide pros and cons for their arguments. But they must be well supported and researched. Your claim that 70% of all computers run Windows means absolutely nothing to me. Such kind of unproductive discourse is most unwelcome on any internet forum.
I think that the only purpose of you posting on this forum is trolling and flaming, and thus I suggest that the moderator warns you of the forum rules and netiquette and if you show any similare behaviour in the future, banns you from the forum permanently.
For your information:
Please read the section Things to Avoid Doing: Welcome to LinuxSay Help Forum
I agree with @BrankoTesla, post useful and meaningful questions which will help users and please don’t post off topics here, before posting I suggest you to read Linuxsay forums as @BrankoTesla suggested…
What I wonder is sometimes it is difficult to get drivers for various hardware on linux which makes the whole point of installing an OS useless. For instance, I installed centOS on my netbook (acer) and after much research could not find suitable drivers for wlan and other system utilities. I guess one should cross check with the availability of drivers of ones device before committing to Linux.
I guess you’re right. I had the same problem with my printer/scanner. There are no Linux drivers for it. So I had to install VB with Windows XP in it. Now, I bought my printer in 2005, while was still on XP, but if I were to buy a piece of hardware now, I would most certainly cross check to see if there are Linux drivers for it.
in Boot time the Linux boot quickly than windows system…
Each Linux and Windows system has its own characteristics and disadvantage…
We won`t tell who is better than who…
Linux runs circles around Windows though I have to links to prove it, I have performed countless installs of both Linux MInt MATE & Xfce on Windows 7 notebooks, most of which were underpowered (dual core Pentium & Celeron CPU’s) & usually 4GB RAM.
Compared to a sluggish Windows 7 SP1 64 bit, Mint Xfce 64 bit ran like it was shot out of a cannon, and MATE ran nearly as fast, just a bit slower than Xfce. BTW, MInt 17.1 is my main OS on my Dell XPS 8700, with an i7-4770, 32GB RAM & nVidia GTX 960 GPU, the latter being the tricky part to install, & the OS has been my main one since version 7 (Gloria).
On these not so old computers, the advantage of a native 64 bit browser helped with the speed also, plus that’s another security feature. 64 bit OS’s are simply more secure than 32 bit ones on 64 bit hardware, as the OS & it’s software can take full advantage of the CPU’s inbuilt security features.
Over the course of the last 6 years, have had my own Mint installs on various computers, compared to whatever version of Windows that was installed, performance was great. Whereas a very bloated XP SP3, Vista or Windows 7 was sluggish (HDD install). On a SSD, Mint still fired up & was ready to roll faster than Windows 7. I attribute some of this due to the lack of all the overhead of Windows (security, background processes, and it usually takes up to a minute to fully load even on a SSD, up to 3-4 on a HDD. Mint is fully there seconds after boot, with little overhead to load, up & ready in little time on both a SSD or HDD, though boot time was blazingly faster on a SSD.
Lets dig deeper, running a virtual machine on a Linux Mint host. One can have 8GB RAM & most any mid level CPU, these will also fire up faster than on a Windows machine, regardless of the installed OS within it. Being that I’m not a gamer, cannot compare specs there, and won’t speculate.
For the last two years, I’ve been trying to get XP users off of a very hazardous OS & to safety, and have had close to a 50% success rate conversion. This was in part due to the speed increase on their hardware (some had to have Mint 13 for PAE support), also in part due to me spending actual time in showing these users how to perform basic tasks. This is one of the important things in getting users on Linux, show them the OS, what it can do, and guide the user, allowing them to do the work. Mint is as close as a drop in replacement for XP (or most any Windows version through 7) as it comes. Those who likes the look & feel of Windows 8, may be more suited for Ubuntu & I’ve assisted a few there also.
So overall, I’d say that Linux runs at least 2x faster than Windows & uses half or less of the available resources in doing so.
In regards to Microsoft’s claims that Windows 8 fast ‘boot times’, it’s a false one & here’s why. Out of the box with no adjustments, the OS never truly shuts down, rather it’s in a hybrid type of sleep. It’s not ‘booted’, it’s turned on like a light switch. That’s because there’s a hidden setting called ‘FastBoot’ that SSD users disables, along with hibernation. The only times when the computer fully reboots is after the monthly Windows Update, and software that requires a reboot for uninstall, like when swapping security brands or certain hardware changes such as a GPU swap.
On a notebook, this is particular hard on the hardware, even the battery, as on some the warmth can be felt at the top where the power button is. Even after hours or days since last used. If left unplugged, I’m not sure what the outcome would be, maybe it would shut down for safety. In a dual boot environment, this can lead to the Windows OS breaking in a worst case scenario.
Microsoft was playing with their cards under the table during that claim.
That’s another reason for me never to go back to Windows.
because it meant be…
let me explain how this works…
Windows has lot of windows packages to run and to initialize the process to run(start up i mean) where in Linux kernel does it all no matter how many programs you set to run on startup.
The main difference is CLI , CLI is fast you can do anything just by typing a command and it actually fun and of course it’s like sedative drug once you used to it you cant make a way to leave it
Its not just speed its the over all experience that makes one stick to any system.
And I am clearly with Linux, after trying out several distros for over a decade.
Yes linux is too much faster than windows and happy to say I have experienced this in business environment. Previously we used to work on legacy systems (windows) for message processing (telco) , I am awake all the night and responding to alerts for queue pile up and distributing the messages among couple of servers . We have recently migrated to RHEL and all the manual work vanished on the day one itself and easy to troubleshoot customer complaints . It takes 10 hours to process some 1 million messages and our new system takes some thing like 4 hours or may be less.
Sure, but since Win8 it definitly is faster booting than Linux is. Althought for Win8 to boot fast it leaves the file system in an ‘unstable’ state (words of the linux kernel itself). But since upgrading to Win10 it really is ways ways faster than my elementary OS, really a lot faster (like 10 or 20 times faster, it is almost instant to boot)
in Boot time the Linux boot quickly than windows system… Each Linux and Windows system has its own characteristics and disadvantage…We won`t tell who is better than who…
But SSD powered Windows is faster than HDD powered Linux. Why? I own both, lol
It’s a very good question whether that is Linux is much better and faster than Windows?
It depends on who uses what. Personally, I only use it only desktop applications.
Speed is approximately equal to but if you look at how a Windows default application has already plays a little outrageous. Salts do not even know what it was.
By contrast, Linux has no such worries.
It is also outrageous to me that Windows 7 uses by default 1 GB RAM.
This is the case even if a Linux KDE version is talking about the value of 500 MB of RAM.
The other thing that always annoys Windows is the case that when you set it to myself to find its own programs.
This is the case of Linux is different again. Or, find minimal or complete the application repositories.
better means depend on your need…
my experience says yes…